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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:52 pm

Hi friends,

news, from my Dutton rebuilding...... ;)


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good Days
Tom
Pheaton S2
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Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Andy S » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:06 pm

A few toomany http://'s Tom but all fixed now

Plenty of work going on there and a reminder that I really must get some more pictures of mine sorted out.

Keep up the good work

Andrew

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Postby jonno » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Looks interesting, Cosworth V6 and Auto box :)

What are you doing with the body, it looks like foam at the moment.
Are you going to take a mold or just fibreglass / resin it when you get the right shape ?, i like the rear bumps where the roll bar goes.

Nice job so far :D
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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:51 pm

Hello Andy and janno,

In this moment I model the body.
Side panels, crossbar beam and the cowling.
My friend Wolfgang gave me the tip, to model the body with PU-form-plates.
If I finish the model we craft a negativ and than the positiv form.
I want to have a Pheaton with more curves and soft transitions.

thx, for the fixed pic's Andy :rolleyes:

and excuse me for my bad english.

nice time

Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:32 pm

Hello,


A new pic from the modeling :)

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cheers

Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby jonno » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:07 am

Hi Tom, too many http://'s again ;)

I'm liking this, keep the pictures coming B)
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Postby Andy S » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:53 pm

Cool B)

As a lot of the nose of my B+ is just empty I am giving serious consideration to a bit of re-modeling to shorten the bonnet and bring the nose cone back 3-4 inches to balance the side view of the car which I personally thing is a bit nose heavy.


On the B type the wheel base is 3" longer than the B+ so proportionally the car looks better .

In my view

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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:53 pm

Hi Jonno,
here a more pic's :rolleyes:

Oh man,

which I am to make?

Concerning: Air discharge opening

Mach I it, how on the right Side panel, or how on the left?

Modelling is not simple...... :unsure:

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what says it to it?

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Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:07 am

Hello,

Many time I think about my rear end from the Dutton. So I modelling a Diffuser.
Not to big and not to small.

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cheers

Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Andy S » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:56 am

That looks rather B) in my view and hats off to you thats some impressive work.

All the best

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Postby grizzly adams » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:26 pm

Been watching and not commenting up to now but got to say keep up the good work this is one car that will definitely have the 'wow' factor
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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:35 pm

Many thanks :rolleyes:

I hope, I find a harmonic design.

For the viewers sight, all in all a Dutton Car.

Lots of Duttonowner in Germany want a S7, VM, Westfield.....

So they sheeting, S7 noses in her Dutton or other Parts from this manufakturer.

This is not my way. I want to build a Dutton, in the spirit of Pheaton. :wub:

The back from the Dutton S1 and S2 its verry nice. Better as a S7, VM ++++

..... thats my position

A touch Oldtimer, a good racer.....

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Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Andy S » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:04 am

The trouble with the Duttons is that unlike the others you mention the overall design is not correctly balanced and as the eye is always looking for balance and symmetry the cars look awkward - couple that with some dire personal touches and a bad build and the cars get the reputation they have.

The modifications you are doing give the car a visual balance which was present with the early B Types but got lost with each subsequent model after that. Most of the cars have one or maybe two views in which they look right - the the other views are just so wrong.

Being such small cars it is not easy to get a correct balance with the overall look of the car it however very easy to get it wrong.

keep us posted with the progress.

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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:56 am

Hallo Andrew,

Accrue that additional the most Fibreglass bodies are building very simple and imprecise. The clearances are different and the smooth transitions between the body parts incorrect.
I agree with you too, that the eyes from the viewer?s are always looking for balance and symmetry?? ?I especially?

I restore vintage cars since my 18 years of age. So I like the love for detail and the smooth transitions. :rolleyes:

In this sense

Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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Postby Tom_Ger_Phaeton S2 » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:06 am

Hallo, Andrew

new Pics from the modelling.

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cheers
Tom
Pheaton S2
Date of registration 1979
Frame N° P842

1 st owner from Collingham Newark

Metamorphosis from 1.5 to 2.9cc Ford scorpio cosworth;
Reconstruction back rigid-axle Type Escort to independent suspension Ford scorpio cosworth & front to Scorpio
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